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Ben Nadel at cf.Objective() 2011 (Minneapolis, MN) with: Haley Groves
Ben Nadel at cf.Objective() 2011 (Minneapolis, MN) with: Haley Groves

Working Code Podcast - Episode 147: Potluck

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This week, we go around the table and talk about a variety of topics. I talk about Transactive Memory Systems Theory and how it might be applied in an engineering context. Carol—having moved into a new home and a new job—talks about the joys of starting something new in her life. Tim talks about the short-comings of a ticketing system; and, Goodhart's Law (which states: "when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure"). And, Adam considers what his life would look like if he took on more of a leadership / force-multiplier role at work.

All that and more on this week's show:

... featuring these beautiful, beautiful people:

With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

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Reader Comments


Great episode! I always enjoy the variety of topics you discuss on the Working Code Podcast, and this one was no exception. Ben's insights into Transactive Memory Systems Theory were fascinating, and it's exciting to think about how such psychological theories can be applied in engineering.

Carol's enthusiasm for starting anew, both in her home and job, is truly inspiring. It's a reminder that change can bring so much joy and personal growth. Tim's discussion about the pitfalls of ticketing systems and Goodhart's Law was eye-opening; it makes you think critically about metrics and their impact on our behavior.

Lastly, Adam's contemplation of a leadership role at work was thought-provoking. It's essential to consider the dynamics of leadership and its potential influence on our careers and personal growth.

Overall, a well-rounded episode with a little something for everyone. Looking forward to more insightful discussions on your podcast!



Thanks for such positive feedback. I too am always so impressed by Carol! She's easily one of the most resilient, most positive persons I've ever met. I'm always in awe of her ability to just roll with the punches and keep moving forward. I wish I had more of that in my life.

If you have anything you'd like us to talk about, just let me know 🙌

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