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Ben Nadel at the New York ColdFusion User Group (May. 2009) with: Mark Drew and Gert Franz
Ben Nadel at the New York ColdFusion User Group (May. 2009) with: Mark Drew ( @markdrew ) Gert Franz ( @gert_railo )

Working Code Podcast - Episode 65: TDD In The Trenches With Scott Stroz

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Testing code is like taking out insurance: until you need it, it can be hard to understand why it's so important; it can be hard to understand what everyone is raving about. And so, you continue writing your code without tests. And, everything is fine, until one day it isn't. And in that moment, you finally see for yourself what value automated testing could have brought to the table.

Or, so they tell me.

On today's show, the crew talks to Scott Stroz about his experience with Test Driven Development (TDD); and, about how he has come to understand that testing makes possible what would have otherwise been impossible. With solid testing practices in place, Scott was able to refactor an exceedingly convoluted intake form that rendered 25 buttons, 6 unique workflows, and took the user through up to 28 steps. Crunch those numbers and try telling me that the chance of making a mistake isn't absolute. And yet, thanks to a rigorous test-first coding methodology, Scott was able to completely refactor this workflow - from the ground-up - and delivery it on-time and without error!

All that and more on this week's show:

... featuring these beautiful, beautiful people:

With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

For the full show notes and links, visit the episode page. And, be sure to follow the show and come chat with us on Discord! Our website is and we're @WorkingCodePod on Twitter and Instagram. New episodes drop weekly on Wednesday.

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