Nora Ephron vs. Meg Ryan: What Is That We Love?

Posted July 7, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Tags: Relationships, Life

For years, I really loved Meg Ryan. I still like her, of course, but when I was younger, I definitely held her on some sort of a pedestal. She stood out from the other actresses of her time as being just fun and adorable and super lovable. And for years, I just assumed it was all due to her inherent goodness. But like any actor, she's also made some less than fantastic movies. Films such as Addicted to Love, Proof of Life, Joe Versus the Volcano, and In the Land of Women were decent movies, but they just weren't what I'd call, "classic Meg."

 
 
 
 
 
 
Meg Ryan - The Ultimate Jeans And T-Shirt Girl. 
 
 
 

Then last week, I saw that Sleepless in Seattle was on TV; and, as I'd never seen it as an adult and remember hating it as a child, I figured I'd DVR it and watch it over the weekend (what can I say - I'm a big softy for romantic movies). It turned out to be an adorable, sweet movie with fantastic dialog and such memorable quotes as:

Well, it was a million tiny little things that, when you added them all up, they meant we were suppose to be together... and I knew it. I knew it the very first time I touched her. It was like coming home... only to no home I'd ever known... I was just taking her hand to help her out of a car and I knew. It was like... magic.

Needless to say, it was "classic Meg" (although the quote above is Tom Hanks).

Then, on Sunday, I was in a rather romantic mood and felt like watching When Harry Met Sally - perhaps one of the best movies ever made. So I settled into bed, hit play, and laid back. And that's when I saw it, in the opening credits, that the movie was written by Nora Ephron. While I couldn't place the name, it sounded so familiar. I thought perhaps it was the same writer as Sleepless in Seattle. A quick check on the IMDB confirmed this... and much more.

As it turned out, Nora Ephron is the writer behind the best "classic Meg" movies that I love:

  • When Harry Met Sally
  • Sleepless In Seattle
  • You've Got Mail

She's even written some other non-Meg favorites such as My Blue Heaven and Mixed Nuts. So this got me thinking - do I really like Meg Ryan? Or do I like Nora Ephron's Meg Ryan?

To answer this question, I guess I have to really think about what it is in Meg Ryan that I find so delicious. A long time ago, a friend of mine defined her as the ultimate "jeans and t-shirt" girl. And, while she rarely wears jeans and t-shirts in her movies, I know exactly what he meant. She evokes a sort of comfort in you and a coziness that might be evoked by an old girlfriend trotting around in a t-shirt and a pair of jeans. But where does this feeling come from? What precipitates it?

Based on the fact that it's decidedly the Nora Ephron version of Meg Ryan that I find so appealing, I have to imagine that it is just a little bit physical and mostly behavioral; something about the way that Nora Ephron makes her talk and act is what makes her so attractive. But, what is it about her personality in these movies that is so gosh-darned inviting? I can't put my finger on it. I'll have to put some more time into tearing it down before I can fully evaluate it. Hopefully more to come later in the comments.

From a purely scientific standpoint, I find this situation to be fascinating. It shows you have effective behavior is in influencing those around you. It really puts significance behind so many of the things discussed in books like The Magic of Thinking Big and The Four Agreements.

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Eric Belair
Jul 7, 2009 at 10:42 AM // reply »
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First of all, Joe vs The Volcano is a CLASSIC. Love that flick. Second of all, what about Top Gun? Though her part was small, I thought she was good as Goose's wife.


Jul 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM // reply »
68 Comments

I used to have a huge crush on Meg Ryan. I was devastated when Joe vs the Volcano was such a bomb.


Jul 7, 2009 at 10:48 AM // reply »
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@Eric,

I think I've only seen it once. Perhaps I'll give it another viewing. I just remember the whole islander culture to be ridiculous. As far as Top Gun, I honestly don't remember much about that movie :)

@Andy,

Agreed!


Jul 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM // reply »
1 Comments

"When Harry Met Sally" is the best of "classic Meg"s!


Jul 7, 2009 at 11:14 AM // reply »
1 Comments

You just listed my top three "guaranteed to make me cry happy tears" movies. Thanks for posting this all have to look up Nora Ephron.


Chris Rockett
Jul 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM // reply »
2 Comments

I'm right there with you on Meg, however I loved Joe vs the Volcano; I thought the critics got it all wrong.

As far as movies go, often the main actor gets credit for something that is really the Auteur, the person who's vision is being created in film, especially if it's a big name actor.

A friend pointed this out to me one day and from then on, I always try and determine who is the real inspiration behind the films I like. Often I find it is the same as other films i really like.

Some of my favorite auteurs are Nora Ephron, Luc Besson, Baz Luhrmann, James Cameron, The Coen Brothers and Quentin Tarantino.


Jul 7, 2009 at 11:52 AM // reply »
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@Eric: So true. Joe v Volcano is awesome! Underrated film ... silly and cute.

@Ben: I have to give the nod to Meg over Nora. No matter how good the writing/directing, it takes someone as 'cute' as Meg to pull those characters off (no knock on Nora's skillz!).


Jul 7, 2009 at 12:47 PM // reply »
25 Comments

If you're this far gone for Meg Ryan, you may as well make French Kiss your next rental.


Jul 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM // reply »
2 Comments

Joe vs. the Volcano has the very same starting point as Office Space. Both have beaten down office workers who are burned out with stale, ridiculous office culture. Joe - just goes a different direction and takes that same character outside the office to get him out of his rut - in an admittedly silly 80s comedy kind of way.

If you can accept the over the top comedy and appreciate the underlying message it's a great movie with some cute lines and a very adorable Meg Ryan. To me the comedy is no more over the top than "Hitchhikers Guide". Both of them intend to communicate a deeper message under the zany humor.


Jul 7, 2009 at 1:12 PM // reply »
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@Chris,

Yeah, those are some great writer / directors.

@Craig,

I'm not saying that Meg Ryan doesn't have a lot to do with it - she's definitely a super cutie. But, I think the personality that Nora Ephron gives her characters is really what makes her shine.

@Mike,

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. Definitely a cute movie. I'm also a huge Kevin Kline fan.

@Dan,

Hey, I'm definitely happy to give a movie another go - I love movies.


David Droddy
Jul 7, 2009 at 2:20 PM // reply »
7 Comments

Joe V. Volcano is ENTIRELY rediculous--that's what made it so good. Tom Hanks really nailed that one too!!


Jul 7, 2009 at 5:29 PM // reply »
13 Comments

So much hate for Joe Vs The Volcano. I still love that move after many repeated viewings.

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I am guilty of the Meg crush while growing up too.

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Jul 7, 2009 at 10:36 PM // reply »
1 Comments

A few other classic "Meg" movies:

I.Q. (Einstein's niece opposite Tim Robbins)
Kate & Leopold
City of Angels


Jul 8, 2009 at 8:06 AM // reply »
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@Steve,

Oh man, I forgot about some of those. IQ was definitely a cute movie, no doubt. I think I've only seen City of Angels once, but I don't remember much about it. I think I remember nick cage in it more than I remember her. That said, I wouldn't mind giving IQ another viewing.


Secret Admirer
Jul 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM // reply »
23 Comments

I love Meg Ryan! I used to try to get her haircuts all the time but mine never looked as good as hers :(

I love When Harry met Sally, that's the kind of movie that you wish would happen to you, like meeting that person who happens to be wonderful but you don't really notice. You continue to move on with your life and then one day they meet again and realize they are "the one" of course these things usually never happen in real life, but it can maybe.

Anyhow, I being a girl love romantic movies and Meg is definitely on my top 10 list of female actresses. When her and Tom Hanks make a movie together it's definitely "like magic" you believe they are in love.

Great movies!

My dreamboat! this is why ;)


Jason Fisher
Jul 9, 2009 at 8:49 AM // reply »
102 Comments

@Ben,

So the next obvious part of the test has to be watching other Nora Ephron movies to see whether female leads who are *not* Meg Ryan come across as irresistibly cute. That would give some clue to the other side of Ephron's influence on the Meg equation :)


Jul 9, 2009 at 9:10 AM // reply »
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@Jason,

I like that plan and I think I need to put it into motion.


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